Comments on: the suspension of disbelief. what dreams may come. http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/ Urban Decay/Renewal Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:45:29 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: queerkidofcolor http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-19 queerkidofcolor Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:45:29 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-19 this was beautifully written. this was beautifully written.

]]> By: Cistrict of Dolumbia http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-18 Cistrict of Dolumbia Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:44:05 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-18 <i>when black gay men and womenn are consistently murdered, where is the white gay community? when black gay folks are targeted by police officers, where is the white gay community? when funding for hiv/aids services dries up in black communities (not talking about AMFAR research here, folks), where are the white gays?</i> PREACH!!! when black gay men and womenn are consistently murdered, where is the white gay community? when black gay folks are targeted by police officers, where is the white gay community? when funding for hiv/aids services dries up in black communities (not talking about AMFAR research here, folks), where are the white gays?

PREACH!!!

]]> By: thetransplant http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-17 thetransplant Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:53:28 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-17 never inadvertent, frankie. never inadvertent, frankie.

]]> By: Frankie Leon http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-16 Frankie Leon Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:10:15 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-16 "i stood there thinking, this feels like another country. when was the last time people in the US took to the streets (nationwide, it turns out) for a president." Simply stated and brilliantly articulated. And I love the subtle (inadvertent?) reference to James Baldwin. “i stood there thinking, this feels like another country. when was the last time people in the US took to the streets (nationwide, it turns out) for a president.”

Simply stated and brilliantly articulated. And I love the subtle (inadvertent?) reference to James Baldwin.

]]> By: Asada http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-14 Asada Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:41:40 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-14 this is a good post, I'm not old enough to remember the conservative right's take over of black churches, but I am old enough to realize they USE the prison systems to get desperate people on board. Cant tell you how many ex-cons and their families come thanking the church for helping them through. And they truely believe their life is better because of a set of dogma. I also agree, personal exposure is key! When I went to my college orientation, I was appauled my university had a Rainbow Center and wanted me to step inside. I felt in my core it was immoral and couldnt believe a reputable university would allow such "filth" on its grouds. Now, I am a gay rihst supports. The diffrence was EXPOSURE!! Brave gays willing to take to me and challenge me. It got me thinking. I came out of college a freethinker and gay rights activist. Ive seen diehard conservatives attend speaches by Gay Activists and change thier homophobic ways. These are people I never thought would even listen to a gay person!! But it takes exposure! It takes the opportunity to hear them and learn from them. What I don't really get is the black/white issue. I became a supporter through learning about homosexuality from mostly white gays. Or maybe its because being white is not seen the same as being black or different. this is a good post,
I’m not old enough to remember the conservative right’s take over of black churches, but I am old enough to realize they USE the prison systems to get desperate people on board. Cant tell you how many ex-cons and their families come thanking the church for helping them through. And they truely believe their life is better because of a set of dogma.
I also agree, personal exposure is key! When I went to my college orientation, I was appauled my university had a Rainbow Center and wanted me to step inside. I felt in my core it was immoral and couldnt believe a reputable university would allow such “filth” on its grouds. Now, I am a gay rihst supports. The diffrence was EXPOSURE!! Brave gays willing to take to me and challenge me. It got me thinking. I came out of college a freethinker and gay rights activist.

Ive seen diehard conservatives attend speaches by Gay Activists and change thier homophobic ways. These are people I never thought would even listen to a gay person!!

But it takes exposure! It takes the opportunity to hear them and learn from them.

What I don’t really get is the black/white issue. I became a supporter through learning about homosexuality from mostly white gays. Or maybe its because being white is not seen the same as being black or different.

]]> By: flabbyabby http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-13 flabbyabby Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:05:08 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-13 Well said it's just like the white feminist who bitched after Hillary lost and trying to give us that 'you of all people should understand' crap it didn't work with her and it WON'T work now. But thank you for saying it better than I could have. Well said it’s just like the white feminist who bitched after Hillary lost and trying to give us that ‘you of all people should understand’ crap it didn’t work with her and it WON’T work now. But thank you for saying it better than I could have.

]]> By: yk http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-12 yk Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:16:50 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-12 beautifully written babe. miss you and so very anticipatory of things to come. beautifully written babe. miss you and so very anticipatory of things to come.

]]> By: links for 2008-11-07 « natthedem’s domain http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-11 links for 2008-11-07 « natthedem’s domain Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:01:16 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-11 [...] the suspension of disbelief. what dreams may come. « The Transplant. [...] [...] the suspension of disbelief. what dreams may come. « The Transplant. [...]

]]> By: Balt-O-Matt http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-10 Balt-O-Matt Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:15:33 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-10 You know where else the gay "leaders" have failed? They've failed, obviously, in rural parts of America which is ALSO evidenced by the Prop 8 vote. And also with white men. I've read elsewhere that those CNN exit poll numbers everyone's up in arms about aren't terribly reliable in the end and that it's highly unlikely that African Americans were 10% of the voters in CA. Heck, it's not even clear that 70% of the African American voters voted yes on 8. I lived through this in MI back in 2004 and much the same was said there about the African American community. It's a ridiculous argument, especially when made by people who belong to gay rights organizations whose only organizing is done in planning large gala events to award straight celebrities for their efforts. That's not how rights are won and opinions are changed. Great post. You know where else the gay “leaders” have failed? They’ve failed, obviously, in rural parts of America which is ALSO evidenced by the Prop 8 vote. And also with white men. I’ve read elsewhere that those CNN exit poll numbers everyone’s up in arms about aren’t terribly reliable in the end and that it’s highly unlikely that African Americans were 10% of the voters in CA. Heck, it’s not even clear that 70% of the African American voters voted yes on 8.

I lived through this in MI back in 2004 and much the same was said there about the African American community. It’s a ridiculous argument, especially when made by people who belong to gay rights organizations whose only organizing is done in planning large gala events to award straight celebrities for their efforts. That’s not how rights are won and opinions are changed.

Great post.

]]> By: adrienne http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/the-suspension-of-disbelief-what-dreams-may-come/#comment-9 adrienne Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:12:07 +0000 http://thetransplant.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-9 Why u so smart boy?? :-) love this, thank u for eviscerationg analysis. Did u read my big gay blog on the topic? I also blogged our night with a similar arc from our cynicism to our celebration. Www.adriennemareebrown.net love u and loved sharing that night with u Why u so smart boy?? :-) love this, thank u for eviscerationg analysis. Did u read my big gay blog on the topic? I also blogged our night with a similar arc from our cynicism to our celebration. http://Www.adriennemareebrown.net love u and loved sharing that night with u

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